In this soul-nourishing episode of Taboo Talk with Sarah, we dig deep with founder of Earth Food, Bronwyn Holm. Together, we explore how healing our soil is inseparable from healing our bodies, communities, and collective future. From nutrition for neurodivergent kids to food security, family gardening, and soil as sacred—this conversation is a wake-up call and a love letter to the land. If you’ve ever wondered how growing your own food connects to sovereignty, wellness, and resilience—this is the episode that will change the way you see what’s on your plate.
“The health of our soil is a mirror of the health of our society.” — Bronwyn Holm
“We don’t need more control—we need more connection.” — Sarah Jordan-Ross
“It’s not just food—it’s information for the body. If the soil is depleted, your body is too.” — Bronwyn Holm
Bronwyn Holm – Visionary founder of Earth Food, regenerative agriculture advocate, and passionate educator on the connection between soil, nutrition, and sovereignty. Bronwyn’s mission is to empower everyday families—especially those raising neurodivergent kids—to reconnect with nature, food, and healing through simple yet powerful soil practices.
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Sarah Jordan- Ross (00:01) Welcome back to Taboo Talk, the podcast that breaks the silence, fosters the hope and tackles the tough stuff so you never have to feel alone. I'm your host, Sarah Jordan Ross. I'm a wife, I'm a mum to three amazing boys. And I love to have those conversations that most people are too afraid to start, those ones about life, love, trauma, healing and everything in between. And I think today's episode
really speaks to the heart of what I believe. Healing doesn't just happen in therapy rooms and hospitals. Sometimes it happens with our hands in the soil. Today I'm joined by Bronwyn Holm, the incredible woman behind Earthfruit, a soil conditioning blend that's become something sacred in our home. My son Lachlan and I used it to start our own garden this year. And honestly, it's more than a product, it's a philosophy.
dare I say a quiet revolution. We're going to talk about Brahman's story, how earth food came to be, why nutrition starts with the soil, and what growing our own food has to do with sovereignty, mental health, and healing our communities, especially for families like ours raising neurodivergent kids. So grab a cuppa or head into the garden with your headphones in.
This one's rooted in nourishment, both literally and metaphorically. Bronwyn, welcome and thank you so much for being here.
BronHolm (01:27)
Yeah.
Hello, Sarah. Hello, everyone. Thank you. This is great. You know, it's really funny. I really appreciate you trying Earth food out as you have been because a lot of people... Look, I really... There's a couple of things I would really like to stress to people that we are at a tipping point in humanity where we need to start looking at food.
Sarah Jordan- Ross (01:46)
was so much fun.
BronHolm (02:04)
I have in my talks, as you know, I travel all over Australia and we will be looking at different parts of the world as of next year. What we found is the farming community is in trouble. We are not able to produce the food that we did in the 60s and the 70s. And it's no longer the food that works with our bodies as it should have been by the way that
god and mother nature, whatever your belief structure is, there was something bigger than us that's designed all of this in the first place. So here's something that might be of interest, ⁓ and that is getting the kids involved is absolutely so important and understanding that seeds are
Sarah Jordan- Ross (02:38)
Yeah
BronHolm (02:59)
not going to be available because the big seed vaults have been bought out by corporations, or one particular one, and to start seeding seeds, learn how to seed harvest, and learn what happens to the soil. So that's one of the key things we can do for our kids and for our own health as we go into the future of the unknown.
Sarah Jordan- Ross (03:26)
So before we head into the future, can you take us back to the beginning? So what was it that planted that seed for you that made you want to start earth foods? And for those who don't know what earth food really is, if you could unpack that for us a little bit, but what was it that made, that started your journey down this road of nourishing the soil and of
growing your own food and those sorts of things. What lit that spark?
BronHolm (03:58)
Well, first of all, became a, my great-great-grandfather Egert Holm came to Australia in the 1880s and was the senior head wine maker at Hermitage Estate Winery, which is quite a ⁓ prominent ⁓ vineyard here internationally known. He, they should do it, started off with his microbes.
Sarah Jordan- Ross (04:10)
You
some pretty good wine.
BronHolm (04:24)
So ⁓ you have to make things in 36 to 48 hours, otherwise the microbes don't die because these are nitrifying living soil microbes. They're not waterborne microbes as people would have in like worm juice or worm tea, for example. So these are different and they work with the soil. ⁓ They heal it, they repair it, they turn it into chocolate brown, fertile living soil. And this can only be done with
these microbes, which truly is like they're just a God given gift. should all be they should just all be put back into the soil as ⁓ as what's meant to be there. But over like a couple of centuries, particularly the last one, we've actually lost them, particularly since the last world war ⁓ because of the overuse of desiccating chemicals, which desiccating means dry out.
So these dry out the soil, dry out plants, they dry out weeds, that whole intention of it, but they've killed everything. And now the soil is very, very sick, covered with acid rains. And for those of you who want to learn about geoengineering, that's also hurting mother nature's skin. anyway, I was lucky to work with a soil scientist who was able to
we were able to get this to be able to live up to 10 years in a bottle now. And ⁓ the reason is because they're suspended, they're made in a controlled environment in a cold temperature. And that means that when we wake them up with water, it's the hydrogen in water like H2O that can bring them back to life and move. And then they multiply by 9 billion, by 9 billion, by 9 billion. So that's pretty fast. And they can go into the soil and do their job.
But here's the thing, no one understands what soil is. Like, Sarah, what do you think soil is? That's a tough question, isn't it? Well, it's all things.
Sarah Jordan- Ross (06:31)
we don't
have the nutrients in the soil that we once did and that's why we're not getting the same nutrients in our food. But apart from, yeah, it's that layer of stuff underneath the grass that keeps us all. So I think of it like layers of the skin. You've got that surface layer, but it's what's happening underneath that's a bit more important than just what's happening on top because what's happening lower down shows.
on the outside. But yeah, I hadn't thought too far about exactly what makes up the soil and why making sure it's microbiomes as well as like I talk about making sure that our gut microbiome is as healthy as it can be because of the knock on effects that has. But yeah, until I met you, I hadn't really thought too much about
BronHolm (07:09)
Here's something for you, Sarah.
Sarah Jordan- Ross (07:29)
the Earth's microbiota, like about the soil and how that can affect. But I did say firsthand with my son Lachlan when we put in the garden and we prepped it with Earth food. I have never seen a veggie garden take off so fast. And some of them are just huge.
BronHolm (07:47)
Yeah.
It's because you're working with Mother Nature. It's like when people say, I'm going on the carnivore diet, I'm going on the Atkins diet, whatever, whatever. And then a week later, they I feel so good. I feel amazing. Well, you know what? It's not the fact that they're on the carnivore diet. It's the fact that stopped eating ultra processed foods. Now it's the same with the garden. It's not that.
Sarah Jordan- Ross (08:11)
Mmm.
BronHolm (08:15)
the earth food is making bigger foods is that it's just that we've stopped using the chemicals and the the the processes that actually hurt the soil. That's the difference. So, well, what is soil as I started to say before? Well, when I die, I will be put back to eighty-seven minerals in the soil. I will break down into eighty-seven minerals. Anything that has had a living life before
leaves, insects, whatever people, when we die we actually break down to minerals. We are part of the earth. We are part of this system. We are a system within a system within a bigger system. And when we go to a doctor, funny enough, they'll say, okay Sarah, I can hear what you're saying. Let's just check your bloods. Let's see what's going on. And an inaptropath as well. So they'll
Your results will come back and they'll you need more magnesium. You need iron or ⁓ zinc. Hang on, we've got to look at your heart at the moment. We're going to boost you up on potassium. It said, well, these are all minerals. Where do you think that comes from? The soil. So, hence them.
Sarah Jordan- Ross (09:36)
And most of it comes, for
us, comes from what we ate.
BronHolm (09:39)
Exactly. And here's something you want to think of too. In Australia, in one of the southern states, there was a report done by an international company in 2022. It was on the fresh food that was sold in the big food distribution channels. They checked out after a year and the results were that
67 % of that fresh food had no nutritional value. And the largest diagnosis right now in GP rooms is scurvy, lack of vitamin C. So how do we have that in a time like this? We have knowledge, we think we're eating good food, we think we're doing the right thing, but here's the sleight of hand.
Sarah Jordan- Ross (10:20)
And that's a little scary.
BronHolm (10:34)
that all the food now is not growing with living microbes and hasn't done. And we wonder why children's brains are broken. We wonder why we are sick and why we are dying slowly. We wonder why we hurt and cry and feel too much pain. And it's because our bodies and our ancient gut bio within us is starved. The food that should be feeding that is not available. The things that are to make us have a healthy life.
now is like where do you go? So this brings me to the next topic. Well what happens? Why aren't plants taking the as I said the minerals or the soil because they're it's all bio not bioavailable. These microbes make the soil bioavailable and that's why
your lettuces are standing tall, got crunch, got amazing taste because they're working with nature.
Sarah Jordan- Ross (11:35)
Yeah.
So much more flavor. We even grew little baby carrots and just the difference that we noticed in the flavor of those and grew spinach and silverbeet and it's still going. hopefully it will all survive a couple of Tasmanian frosts, but that's challenge for another day.
BronHolm (12:00)
Well, see that's
the thing. Yeah. Well, these are not waterborne microbes. Waterborne microbes would probably die in very cold temperatures or if they dry out because they're not soiled microbium. So soil means that they go in a cold time, they'll just go down deep. In a dry drought, they'll just go down deep and they'll just keep doing what they're always done. ⁓ When you have your first day of
spring down there where you are they'll actually start to come up and do more work on the surface area and that's why in mother nature you get a real whoosh of all these flowers popping and all these things starting to grow up on those first few warm days of spring and that's the microbes in the soil saying come on guys action show time let's go
Yeah, it's amazing.
Sarah Jordan- Ross (12:57)
And I'm loving learning again what things are in season when and trying to jump back in to that. Cause I remember as a kid and I'm going to show my age, but that's okay. That certain fruits and vegetables were only available at certain times of the year. But winter time, you always got oranges for netball. So it was like.
Yet that must be the time when oranges grow. Or, yet berries and watermelon, they're a summer thing. But now, because of how it's harvested, we get all of those things year round and I doubt that very many actually even know when is the right season for what.
BronHolm (13:37)
certainly.
Well, look, we do an email out to all our members once a month and it tells them what's going on, what's some of the things that they can do. It's just very, very easy, very fast, because we know that everybody's busy and I never do a Black Friday special. So if people want to get that information, they just need to go to our homepage, yourearthfood.com, yourearthfood.com.
Sarah Jordan- Ross (14:11)
You
BronHolm (14:20)
and just go down to the bottom of the page and join our community. This information I send out you will not find in the local newspaper for example. We try very hard to write things that are helpful, productive and future-proofing our nation. The reason being is because we are at a tipping point for our health and what we are doing as a humanity.
One of the things, and you mentioned I don't know what seeds to plant in these seasons. The thing is this, we're going to have to start learning how to hand harvest our seeds. We're going to have to actually start buying seeds and store them. Right now, there are laws in different parts of the world where you cannot share your seeds with your neighbour. You'll be put in jail.
And that's because of the changes that are coming through now. And it's all there in plain sight. You can go and look all this up. I'm not making it up. The control is over the food, the agriculture, and the seeds. You see, once you've got control over that, you've got control over everything. this is where we're at. This is happening now. ⁓ And right now, there are these new laws that have
come into South Australia where every single farmer right now has to do an auditing report. This has never been done before. And that includes the number of ⁓ what seeds you're using and how much you've got and where did you get them from as part of this biosecurity, ⁓ in my mind, overreach. But anyway, that's my opinion. And what we're looking at now
Sarah Jordan- Ross (16:11)
and you're entitled to it.
BronHolm (16:12)
Sorry?
Sarah Jordan- Ross (16:14)
You're entitled to your opinion.
BronHolm (16:16)
Well, I do have quite an opinionated view on things. Only because I've seen so much. If I just stayed in my own backyard and just got the local media, I would have the normal sanitised news that everyone else in my state. But because I'm on the road, I see the whites of these farmers, I'm involved in farmers events. I'm involved in community gardens and what's going on. I speak to gardening clubs. I am everywhere.
literally from cities right across to regional areas. I hear it all and I'm pretty well, pretty well informed right up to the back teeth on the real stories of the grassroots, what's really happening. And to be honest, I'm starting to think maybe I should write a book on this right now because there is, there is some trouble in Denmark, let me say. Anyway, it is important that we learn these things. It is not difficult.
And when you work with Mother Nature, she supports you. That's her job. Her job is to make sure you live well. She wants you to live well. And even your ancient gut biome, which is the same as this living earth food microbes, they are the same. They're ancient. They're the same ancient microbes. You remember when we were little, and I know you're a bit younger than me, but
We all grew up making mud pies, right? Well, that's all part of the ancient biome. So we've got big souls, so big pores on the soles of our feet. And that when we're walking in the mud, that's actually bringing in the ancient gut biome. We've also eat the food when we're first born, we're breathing it in and so on and so forth. So this is actually how we live. If that dies in us, we die.
Sarah Jordan- Ross (17:53)
Yeah. ⁓
Thanks.
BronHolm (18:14)
And if it dies on the planet, which right now it is, we will die. We need the soil microbes in there to make the food high density nutrition food for us. We also need the plankton in the sea. Without the plankton in the sea and the microbes in the soil, there is no us. And this is what people are failing to understand. The tiniest entities on the whole planet
is the glue to our survival. And you know, it's quite okay for some countries who want to try their nuclear bombs in the middle of the atoll ⁓ ocean and blow stuff up. And we've got microplastics, ⁓ the size of countries where the two hemispheres meet over the massive, massive mountains of plastic. ⁓ That's all in the soil.
It's actually in us now. We've got them in our livers, in our heart, our bloods. And we need to start reviewing, well, hang on, is this acceptable? Are we going to stand for this? Or are we going to stand up and say, no thanks? And that's pretty much the Earth food movement. So we're more than a product. We're actually a movement. We are more like... ⁓
trying this to educate people what is really going on, ⁓ how they can, and we can't save the world, okay? It's just way too messy, way too big for what we can do. But what we can do is exactly what you're doing, Sarah. You can look after your square meter on the earth. You can put the microbes back where they're supposed to be. You can have your high density nutrition to feed your gut and brain.
and you can have a better health, a healthier, longer life, and you can contribute to community. By contributing to community, you're actually bringing other people together. We are no longer an island. We cannot afford to be an island. We must be part of our own community, a larger community, even an international community. There is time now where we all need to be holding each other's hand, have a shoulder to cry on.
have each other's back, each other on the head when we've done good. And this is really, it's more like a spiritual thing than just an economy thing. And I think it's time that we opened our hearts and started working with Mother Nature and be responsible and accountable. And if we're living and walking on this planet, we need to be paying attention now. Now is the time. We all need to do better now.
Mm.
Sarah Jordan- Ross (21:07)
Yeah. We need to remember that we are all intimately connected and whatever affects one of us affects all of us. And I know that lots of people are like starting to return to having their own gardens and to reclaiming that connection to the earth. Because let's be honest, a lot of us have lost it. When was the last time you walked outside barefoot?
or just got your hands in the dirt like you did when you were a kid or like our kids still love to do. My littlest one, give him a shovel and a spot in the backyard and he's happy. He was supposed to be cleaning up after the dog but he decided he was gonna go and dig a hole somewhere else instead. I was like, yeah, all right, at least he's doing something.
BronHolm (21:36)
Exactly.
Sarah Jordan- Ross (21:59)
But what do you think is part of why we've lost that?
BronHolm (22:01)
That's good. So that's it.
So just to come back to that, these microbes have a frequency of 7 to 12 hertz, which is the same as a bees wing when it makes the honey antibacterial and lasts for thousands of years in like pyramids, for example. But we also know that this frequency, we had that, that's right. So if you lay this on, like if you spray this on your lawn, you can lay on that for 20 minutes to reset your nervous system.
Sarah Jordan- Ross (22:24)
heart vibrates around about that too.
BronHolm (22:34)
⁓ people don't know that. it's all, that's exactly what you were saying, is that ⁓ moving across into a time now where we can reclaim ⁓ having some personal space, hugging a tree, there is a movement through Japan and even here in far North Queensland in the rainforest, it's called forest bathing. And it is going into the deep part of forests
allowing that compound which is in that cold mist. It's so fine that mist. It it it just comes and you can breathe it in. That compound is part of the nervous system in us and it's actually lowering the cortisol, lowering the blood pressure, lowering the vortex of our heart spinning that blood. It is calming every cell. And that's why
when you walk into a rainforest, you just feel the world melt off those shoulders. And I think we need to be reviewing that more and more.
Sarah Jordan- Ross (23:44)
Yes, I think we all need to find that space to quieten down, to calm down, but also to connect to ourselves and to something bigger than ourselves and to remember that, well, every organ in the body vibrates at a different sound and light frequency. So does everything. Everything has that energetic vibration and everything affects.
everything else. that's part of if we want to build a healthy world, we need to first start with ourselves, then with our communities and then it will have that ripple effect because we are all connected. So, Bron, I have question for you. If Earth food had a voice, what would it whisper to someone standing in their backyard, hands in the dirt, wondering if they're doing enough? And what's your
deepest hope for the future of food, farming and families.
BronHolm (24:46)
Okay, I would first of all, first of all, I'd say freedom, ⁓ where you can, you actually have choice and you can choose what you want to do with your garden and what you're growing ⁓ and you will grow well. The thing is this, when you're working with Mother Nature, she will make it work for you. I have literally, I've been on the road, I'm always on the road.
Sarah Jordan- Ross (24:48)
Big questions, I know.
BronHolm (25:16)
But my last tour, I didn't open my laptop for one week because I was either driving or flying or in non-Wi-Fi area. I just opened it this morning and there are literally hundreds of emails of people telling me their Earth food story. And I just split through a couple trying to find your link. And I just thought.
my gosh how do you package all this to tell the world that Mother Nature is looking after us? How do we do that? Maybe there's some bright person out there who has some ideas but you know I think when we just leave all those things if you're buying from a ⁓ bottle or a packet or a tube to put into your garden if it's water soluble you are probably making sure you don't get the results.
and I know that sounds quite bold. There is so much evidence water soluble products going up the drinking structure of the plant will bring insects, pesky weeds and compacted soil. If you're just putting back the microbes into the soil, that's all you will be doing, putting the microbes back into the soil and let it go. Just let it go. All you have to do is make sure that you water it when the soil is dry.
Make sure you've got sugar cane mulch or something covering that soil so the sun isn't penetrating in on those microbes and cooling and drying it out. Look, anyone can do it. You've got kids, they're doing it. I've seen videos of them doing it.
Sarah Jordan- Ross (27:00)
Yes,
they've had lots of fun.
Although Lachlan did say, because it's been a bit cold the last week or so, we've got to get back out into the garden because,
Our plants are growing really, really well. Unfortunately, so are some of the weeds, which reminds me I need to get, because you do have a product that helps with that as well.
BronHolm (27:13)
Well, we-
It's a pine oil ⁓ desiccant. So it's a glyphosate free. I brought that to market because here we are trying to put life back in the soil. And then people would say, ⁓ I need to get that product. You know, that is ⁓ glyphosate. And that's the very thing that kills the microbes. That kills the microbes. So, and that's like one of the top number one products that gets sold in ⁓ the big warehouses. So,
Sarah Jordan- Ross (27:43)
The Wadekiller.
BronHolm (27:53)
It's we're defeating purpose here. And that's the reason why we're in this tipping point and why we have like biblical proportions of insects going across backyards right now. If we started using more microbes in the soil and like I said, ours are living soil microbes with earth food. They will make your soil chocolate brown, fertile living soil. When it is like that,
Sarah Jordan- Ross (28:02)
Mm. ⁓
BronHolm (28:21)
You don't get the pesky weeds and you don't get the insects and compacted soil. What I would like to say to you, Sarah, is just check out what kind of weeds you've got. You may have medicinal weeds and I have a weed pesto that I send out to our audience from time to time so that they can identify plantain and ones like this. Plantain has the highest level of omega-3.
So that's a really good thing. And here we are round up all of our free medicine on the ground that Mother Nature has given to us. So if you've got pesky weeds, that's a different story. And that just means you need warm earth food on the ground and that will repair because pesky weeds don't like chocolate brown, fertile living soil. They like dry, dead, crumbly soil. Dead dirt actually.
Sarah Jordan- Ross (28:51)
Mmm.
likes it though.
BronHolm (29:19)
Grass likes it, yes I know, I'm sorry to
say, but your Jeff is going to have to mow the lawn more in the summer. Nice problem to have though.
Sarah Jordan- Ross (29:25)
You
Yeah, yeah and on one of our garden beds that we were preparing and looks like we didn't quite get rid of all of the grass that was in there and it's it's growing quite nicely.
BronHolm (29:44)
Yeah, you might want to pull some of that out. Yeah. Well, we've got a speaking tour or going all through Tasmania coming up. It's on our website, yourearthfood.com events. And we've got I think we've got some coming up in Sydney region and up through the southern state of New South Wales. ⁓ I'm just heading off tomorrow to Perth and Western Australia. ⁓ We've got
Sarah Jordan- Ross (29:45)
But that's okay. Yeah.
BronHolm (30:12)
few over there and more to come. And look, seriously, ⁓ and this is not sustainable for me to be chopping around on planes and was it planes, trains and automobiles? It's just, it's not sustainable.
Sarah Jordan- Ross (30:28)
Great movie, but not
necessarily a great lifestyle.
BronHolm (30:31)
It is very difficult and I juggle the balls as I go through all the time. But you know, I'm also getting older and the point of this is that we need the younger people to start stepping up and to ⁓ start looking at working in their backyards or in their parents' backyards or even if they decide they're going to be a homesteader that this is something we can help them with.
But we're also looking for stockists and we're also looking for people to carry Earth food. It doesn't matter if they sell it from their backyard garage like an old Amway or the, was it Avon's method? Business model? Yeah. So that you can sell from your garage or you can sell from your big shop, health food shop or whatever. yeah, that's what we're looking for right now.
Sarah Jordan- Ross (31:15)
Yeah, they used to come knock on your door.
BronHolm (31:28)
and that also includes international markets now. ⁓
Sarah Jordan- Ross (31:32)
Yep. Well, I'll put all of those links to your website and everything else on our show notes so people will be able to get in touch with you if getting their hands on earth food and maybe helping others to get their hands on it too because I know it's made the world of difference for our garden and my mum could grow just about
anything. Unfortunately I did not inherit her green thumb. One of my sisters did which is great but was that... no I'm not so good at growing but with what we've done like prepping the soil and then just feeding it earth food it's made it easy and getting out there with my kids and learning more about how things grow when they grow.
BronHolm (32:05)
Thank
Sarah Jordan- Ross (32:24)
has just made gardening fun where it never used to be. was like, it's hard work and I don't get to grow anything properly anyway, but now it's like, actually, I just let it do its thing and it's, it grows really well if it gets that, that preparation.
BronHolm (32:24)
And you know what? This is part of
Yeah.
Yes, so that's it. Yeah.
So we don't need to be doing much. I I work, you know, seven days a week and 15 hour days and I do my gardening by floodlight at night. And so I don't have a lot of time and I just let the microbes do the job. All I do is water my garden. It's one hour a week and it's quite a big one. And every three weeks I just spray the microbes on the leaves. That's it. I don't have any more effort than that except
Sarah Jordan- Ross (32:58)
Yeah.
BronHolm (33:10)
harvest what we're going to have and give away. They always have too much.
Sarah Jordan- Ross (33:13)
Yeah,
yes. I'm hoping that one day we will get to that, at least at the minute, because we just started small, but it started as an experiment to see what, because Jeff had been talking to you about Earth food and how it all worked and say, well, let's give it a try and see. And now it's the, we need more of that and.
Okay we had two little garden beds that we did and now we're gonna extend that and do a few more.
BronHolm (33:49)
Exactly. And you can grow in pots too. I've got five big garden beds and I've 60 pots of food and they're quite big. And the reason being is up here in Queensland where we have very dry, hot februrys, like you just stand still and the moisture just gets sucked out of the pores of your skin. And then we have these rainfalls which drown roots.
Sarah Jordan- Ross (34:09)
Sweat's dripping off you. Yeah.
BronHolm (34:16)
So I move pots around or I put beach umbrellas up or I move things around into more filtered light as opposed to out in the sunlight. And what a lot of people don't realize too is with the geoengineered weather that we're going through across Australia and the world for that matter, ⁓ that there are chemicals and components of that spray, which is like putting the sun through a
Magnifying glass. So I'm seeing plants right now that are being sunburnt that have never been sunburnt before. I'm seeing, I don't know if you've noticed when you go out in the sun, you can actually feel your epidermis sting with the sun piercing through down into the layers. what we're saying
Sarah Jordan- Ross (35:02)
Pazzy son bites
anyway.
which is something that not everybody, Tasmanian sun. So I grew up on the Queensland, New South Wales border, moved to Tassie. Tassie sun bites and it bites harder than Queensland sun, which is very unexpected. That's partly because we're closer to the hole in the ozone layer and few other things, but yeah, Tassie sun.
BronHolm (35:05)
Sorry.
Peace.
Wrong.
Sarah Jordan- Ross (35:32)
and I don't think it's just that I'm noticing it more as I get older. Here it's the don't go out in February without sunscreen on because you will get burnt.
BronHolm (35:46)
Yeah. So anyway, that's ⁓
Sarah Jordan- Ross (35:48)
And so does just about everything else. ⁓
Okay.
Yeah. Because farming is not an easy gig at all.
That's a little scary.
Thanks.
Ha!
Yep.
Otherwise, we're doing things.
Yeah.
Yeah, and community makes a huge difference to everything we do and to how we feel. I know you were talking about kids having a gardening program at school. Sorry, we'll just.
No, that wasn't my phone just decided to ring when I didn't want it to. I thought I'd turned it off, but I hadn't. No, my kids school has a garden program. Yeah. So my kids school has a garden program and they'll go out there a couple of mornings a week before class starts and get in the garden.
and they were teaching them all about how things grow and I love that they actually got their hands dirty and that was where Lachlan started showing an interest in gardening and then he helped out on a land care project that the school did. So knowing that gardening is a thing that lights him up it's like right well we'll start doing it at home as well.
It's all those little things and joining in with other people who are doing similar thing and starting those conversations because, yeah, not everybody does know when things are in season. I'm sure a lot of people would have been shocked to hear how many of our farmers are not coming back after the floods and the floods, the droughts, the...
Because farming's a tough gig and I could be wrong, but it seems like it's only getting tougher.
and we should start doing what we can to get.
Yes. ⁓
Yep.
Yes. No, that's a topic for another day and we just might get you back to go down that particular rabbit hole. But for now, I want to thank you for being here and for sharing your wisdom with us, for showing up with so much heart. What you're doing isn't just soil science, it's soul work, it's remembering who we are.
where we come from and what it means to grow something ourselves and to grow something with love. To everyone listening, this conversation is your permission slip. Go plant that seed, go get your hands dirty. Reclaim what your body, your spirit has always known. Healing starts right under our feet. You'll find all of the links to Earth Food and Bronwyn's beautiful work in the show notes.
So make sure you reach out to her and support the amazing work that she is doing.
And even just tell her the fun that you're having in the garden, because I'm sure she would love to hear that. Share this episode and let's keep weaving that web of community nourishment and quiet revolution of talking about all of those things that we all go through, that we all experience, but we don't always talk about it. So not everybody knows what's going on. So as always,
Stay bold, keep breaking the silence, share your story because your story matters and you never know when it might be your story that changes things for someone else. I'm Sarah Jordan Ross and this has been Taboo Talk.