What if the wisdom you’re searching for has been inside you all along? In this deeply grounding and heart-opening episode, Sarah Jordan-Ross sits down with intuitive teacher, author, and founder of Sacred Haven Living — Carolyn McGee — for a conversation about intuition, sacred living, divine timing, and what it means to return to your truest self. From losing her intuitive connection as a child after a near-drowning experience to rediscovering it through motherhood, grief, and awakening, Carolyn shares how she learned to trust her inner voice again. Together, she and Sarah explore the dance between logic and intuition, the healing power of nature, the importance of community, and the sacred practice of learning to listen. This episode is nourishment for the soul — practical, spiritual, raw, honest, and deeply human.
✨ Intuition is a remembering — not something we learn, but something we return to.
✨ Nature is one of the easiest gateways back to alignment and inner wisdom.
✨ Sacred living isn’t ritual—it’s presence. It’s grounding, noticing, and reconnecting with your senses.
✨ Balance matters: We need both logic and intuition; science and soul.
✨ Community is essential — healing accelerates when people walk beside you.
✨ Love thy neighbour is not a suggestion — it’s the missing conversation we urgently need.
“We start to remember who we are at our essence—who we are at our heart.” — Carolyn McGee
“Your heart is your most intuitive muscle. It will always tell you the truth.” — Carolyn McGee
“Healing happens where science meets soul.” — Sarah Jordan‑Ross
00:01 — Sarah introduces the episode: science, soul, and sacred living
01:14 — Meet Carolyn: intuitive teacher, author & founder of Sacred Haven Living
01:37 — The childhood drowning incident that shut down her intuitive gifts
03:30 — Princess Diana’s passing and the awakening that changed everything
05:41 — Rediscovering colour, possibility, and purpose for her children
06:58 — Neuroscience meets intuition — how everything is interconnected
07:34 — Remembering who you are beneath fear, programming, and conditioning
09:48 — Sacred living explained: rituals, nature, grounding & everyday intuition
12:10 — Why our modern indoor lifestyles block intuition and regulation
13:50 — The power of community: belonging, support & being seen
17:25 — Growth through messiness: confusion, breakdowns & breakthroughs
18:36 — Divine timing, surrender & Carolyn’s “tap and rant” technique
21:38 — Balancing intuition and spreadsheets: living between two worlds
24:13 — Why extremes don’t serve us — spiritual bypassing vs over-analysis
25:51 — The one conversation we’re not having enough: Love thy neighbour
30:13 — Ripple effects: why one person’s light can change the world
32:37 — Carolyn shares her “Heart Test”—a practical tool for intuitive clarity
35:06 — Closing reflections: listening, pausing & returning to your inner wisdom
Sarah Jordan-Ross (00:00) Hey everybody, welcome back to Taboo Talk with Sarah, the podcast that breaks the silence, fosters hope, and talks about the tough stuff so you never feel alone. If you're new here, I'm Sarah. I'm a mum of three amazing boys, a wellness coach, and I believe that healing happens where science meets soul. Each week we've been exploring stories that remind us that life's messiness isn't something to hide from, it's something to honor and grow through.
Recently on the show, we've been exploring what it means to live in alignment, to bring the body, mind and spirit back into harmony. And today we're continuing that journey, this time through the lens of intuition, sacred living and everyday connection. My guest is Carolyn McGay. She's an intuitive teacher, speaker, author, founder of Sacred Haven Living. Carolyn helps people reconnect to their inner wisdom.
and embody divine guidance in practical, everyday ways. She's also a fellow member of the Shine Circle, a community of women who show up fully, support one another deeply, and celebrate each other's light. Carolyn, welcome. I am so glad you're here.
Carolyn McGee (01:14)
I am so excited for this conversation. Thank you.
Sarah Jordan-Ross (01:17)
Now you've built a big body of work around sacred living and intuitive alignment, but I'd love to start with your story. What got you living in your intuition? Stopped it from being something that you tuned into occasionally and actually started paying attention every day.
Carolyn McGee (01:37)
So I completely lost my connection with my intuition. When I was 10 years old, I almost drowned in a river behind my grandparents' house. And I thankfully was saved by an uncle. He pulled me out of that water. And the first thing that happened is I got yelled at for going into the water. No, I had permission. So it's not like I was breaking any rules.
But it was scary and all the adults were worried about me and they were going through their own things. And so I started doubting myself. did I make the right choice? Should I have not done it even though I was told it was okay? And there was a lot of things leading up to that too of choices, being told that,
you're fanciful, don't really see that, you don't believe that, you're really good in logic and math and science and stick in your lane. that was a big piece of it for me was being guided down this pathway that only looked at one aspect of life. And so I really lost my connection.
to my intuition. mean, I was that little kid that talked to the fairies, saw the little tree sprites, talked to the plants, probably was giving them reiki back before reiki was even a thing. You know, I was really, really connected, but I shut it down.
Sarah Jordan-Ross (03:06)
think that happens all too often. children still have that link to to the spiritual they still remember where they came from and somewhere along the way we knock it out of them if that's all just make believe in that little inner voice that little nudging that's not real. So how did you get it back again?
Carolyn McGee (03:30)
So I followed that path and did kind of what I was told or was suggested to do. I went to an engineering school, started working at Corporate America doing manufacturing and systems and materials and documentation and all this stuff that my brain was really good at. But it didn't bring me joy.
After I had gotten married and had my two children, Princess Diana died. And it was a huge awakening for me. I wasn't really big in following, you know, the royals or anything, but I felt this like heart connection with her of she's really being herself. She's finally stepping into who she really is.
and she's leading her children and she's trying to give them balance in their life. So it's not all one way. And there was a lot of parallels in the only one way in my marriage. And it just shocked me so deeply. I grieved for her, I grieved for the family and I grieved for me in a way that I didn't really understand. And then I just decided I want to be me.
Sarah Jordan-Ross (04:29)
Yeah.
Carolyn McGee (04:45)
And I want my children to see that the world is not black and white. The world is so colorful and bright and beautiful. And I want them to see that and then choose what's right for them. know, cause what's right for them may not be right for me, but they've got beautiful little souls and purposes in their own life. And if they're only taught
this narrow little pathway like I had been or that I had chosen to live in, you know, when I married my now ex-husband, then we're missing so many opportunities. know, that sparkle, that brilliance that each individual light brings to the world, it gets dimmed. And I couldn't allow that for me or for my kids. And they were little guys too, but I just...
I had to do it. And so I awoke for my children and I'm so grateful.
Sarah Jordan-Ross (05:41)
that's the thing it's like each and every one of us has that spark has that sparkle and I think that only we can actually do a gift that only we can bring to the world and we all deserve to do that one of the things I'm loving at the minute is how much science particularly neuroscience is catching up to what soul or spirit has always
known that we are these big balls of energy that are intimately connected and that we all interact and what one does affects another but that there's so many more ways to look at something and realizing that sometimes what we thought we knew is just part of the picture and we need to look bigger and deeper.
Like there was a time when we thought that our genes were the be all and end all, that if you had a genetic predisposition to something then you were going to get it. Nothing you could do about it. We now know that's not true. That our environment, our emotions can influence how those genes express. So it's again showing it's all interconnected.
Carolyn McGee (06:58)
Yes, that's it.
Sarah Jordan-Ross (06:58)
and that
intuition and emotional processing come from those same parts of the brain that govern memory and empathy, that it's all interconnected. And when we listen to those signals, it's amazing some of the things that we learn to understand. So do you often find that people have to unlearn that there's only one way to do things?
Carolyn McGee (07:22)
Yes.
Sarah Jordan-Ross (07:22)
before
they then can tune into those messages that they've probably always been getting, but they've either just been tuned to the wrong radio station or flat out ignoring it.
Carolyn McGee (07:34)
think a lot of times there's so much fear around it, whether it's family paradigms, we don't do things that way, or we only do things this way, or there's religion and then there's traditional schooling. There's all of these trainings that we go through as young adults, children, adults going out into the workforce. And it's, I call it a remembering.
you start to remember who you are at your essence, who you are at your heart, because I really believe the heart is the center of it all. And when we understand that, then yeah, we do start to remember. When I was working in corporate, I was doing purchasing for a lot of government contracting companies. And I knew intuitively, even though I didn't know it was intuition, that
there was something wrong with a schematic when we were doing negotiations or something. And I would just say to the engineers, there's something wrong up there. And, know, in the beginning it was a whole lot of eye rolls and I'm like, I couldn't explain it. You know, I'm a 20 something year old with a bunch of 50 year old engineers and
Sarah Jordan-Ross (08:44)
And you're a girl.
Carolyn McGee (08:45)
And I'm a girl
and I used to go get us coffee. Yeah, I don't even want to go down that path. yes, it is the truth. the thing is. Thank God things have changed. But they listened to me and they would take a look at it. And there was always something wrong with that section. And it was something small that, you know, that easily could be missed.
Sarah Jordan-Ross (08:54)
Thank God things have changed.
Carolyn McGee (09:13)
And after a while, they'd just be like, so what section of the schematic do we need to look at now? And it started me trusting myself. Now I didn't really trust myself and start understanding what it was until many years later, but there was this, I was doing it unconsciously. So yeah, that's a remembering of we've got these abilities. And I didn't even remember I did that until I started remembering
intuition and then all of a sudden I'm like, yeah, I have been doing this all along.
Sarah Jordan-Ross (09:48)
Yeah, you remembered who you were. And you quite often in your work speak about bringing the sacred into everyday life and that connects with remembering who you are at your essence. So what does that actually look like beyond meditation or a ritual? For somebody listening who's feeling like they're really disconnected, they want to tune into their intuition but they just have no idea.
Carolyn McGee (09:51)
Mm-hmm.
Sarah Jordan-Ross (10:17)
or there's something blocking it because they're out of alignment with who they really are. What's one small shift that they could make to reconnect with that guidance?
Carolyn McGee (10:27)
So I believe that nature is here to support us. Of course, we're here to support nature too. But when we're talking about connecting into our inner essence, connecting into intuition, remembering who we are, shedding those old paradigms, the best way for me to do that is to get outside. And it doesn't need to be anything crazy.
For me, I'm a huge gardener. So I will go out and deadhead my plants. It's kind of like a moving meditation. I'm taking care of the plants, I'm nurturing them, and I'm also stilling my mind. Or I will go out and hug a tree. Now I'm really fortunate where I have three massive, well, two massive oak trees and one massive maple tree in my backyard. And I can go just go out there and kind of feel the energy. One of the things that a lot of people don't know is
that the over canopy of a tree is the same size as the root system. So nature right there has balance. And if you go out under a tree, you're automatically balancing yourself. You're pulling in from the over canopy and you're pulling in from the root system. And that's a balance. That's as above, so below. you know,
Balancing it all and you know, just listening to the breeze You know that we use all of our senses and when we get so wrapped up in this logical thing, you know We're not really seeing we're not really hearing the messages that are available to us. We're not really even feeling So it's just how do we do that get outside feel the earth on your feet if I my kids make fun Take your shoes off
Sarah Jordan-Ross (12:10)
Take your shoes off and run in the grass.
Carolyn McGee (12:14)
I
do that even when it's winter because I need that connection. I need to feel the earth or grab a couple crystals and bring them into your home. Have indoor plants if you can't have a garden. Just do something where you are bringing in that energy of mother earth because it settles us. It allows us to remember who we really are.
Sarah Jordan-Ross (12:40)
And so much of it now, like just everyday life, we're so busy and so caught up and so many people are spending so much time indoors, on computers, under artificial light, that they never get that. And it's starting to cause a whole bunch of health problems. So the simple solution. Remember what life was like?
before we had all of these amazing fancy gadgets or what you were like when you were a kid. Now, okay, it could be the generation that we belong to. We spent a lot of time outdoors and up trees, but I think we could benefit from remembering that and just getting out and connecting and connecting with nature and also connecting with other people because there's so often that we spend
very little time in that face-to-face real connection, which brings me to my next question for you. We're both part of the Shine Circle.
And I know for myself what a difference being part of a community, whether it is online or in real life, has made. So how important do you think community has been for you, but also how important community is in general?
Carolyn McGee (13:50)
Mm-hmm.
Community is one of my core values. Connection, collaboration, community. And they change their order all the time. I was blessed to be...
raised by a mom who had three sisters. They were all in the education field. They all went home to mom every summer with all of their kids. You know, we're talking back in the 60s and 70s. it was, you know, the guys worked. It was the way it was. And everybody else, we had community. We all slept in.
the upstairs of the barn, we ate lunches outside, we ran over seven acres of land. And if one of the parents said jump, we all said how high? It did not matter who it was because they were all the adults. And we all played together and we figured out a way to make it work. And it really instilled this deep sense of community in me.
And from there, every place that I've gone, I have either joined communities or created communities, running women's networks or we're gonna go learn how to paint. There's a group I belong to called the Bucket List Buddies. We do things that are on bucket lists as a bunch of, and we're all business owners, we're all women business owners. So it's an opportunity to do something that's fun and outside that gotta get.
you know, business done or it's a different type of connection. And it's so important. And you have the, the shine network that you mentioned it's.
Being with like-minded people who are at the same energetic level or maybe a step behind or a step ahead, it's empowering, it's positive, and it's life-altering.
Sarah Jordan-Ross (15:51)
There is definitely something amazing about being in a group of people that you can just go blah and they get it. Like you don't have to, you can be talking about anything like, experiences that you've gone through. quite often it'll be like member of our, our group is going through grief at the moment, having just lost her mom and some of us.
have been there so it was like I love that I can say I know that absolutely nothing I can say is going to make you feel better but anytime you want to tell me about your mum go ahead because I will sit here and I will listen because that's
I know that for me, being able to talk about her after made it that little bit easier. And then I know in my life now there's, there's a wonderful woman who's part of my church community and she's about the same age as my mum. And a lot of things, she just somehow makes me miss my mum less.
Even if it is just every once in a while she'll come out with some smart aleck comment that I go, yep.
Carolyn McGee (16:51)
All that's.
I love that.
Sarah Jordan-Ross (16:58)
So it's finding those people that if you're having a hard time they will come alongside you and walk with you through it. They can't do the work for you because sorry some stuff you do have to do yourself but they will be there with you. Or on the other if you're having an amazing day and you want to jump up on the tables and celebrate well hey we'll jump up there with you and that's what
community is about. It's doing life together in all its joys, its sorrows, and it's messy. But messy can be fun. It doesn't have to be.
Carolyn McGee (17:25)
Mm-hmm.
think some of the biggest opportunities for growth are messy, where they're painful or
confusing, but when we get to the other side of it or when we allow ourselves to move through it, then there's such a huge gift on the other side.
Sarah Jordan-Ross (17:54)
guess a friend of mine, you possibly know, Jackie Wilkinson, she calls it post-traumatic growth. It's like we go through a whole bunch of stuff but we grow through it and we might not be able to change what happened but we can change how we view it, we can change what we do with it.
Carolyn McGee (17:58)
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, I like that.
Mm-hmm.
Sarah Jordan-Ross (18:16)
So you've also written a little bit about divine timing and trusting that, that life unfolds exactly as it should be. So how do you keep that balance between surrender and action, between faith and trust and just doing the work?
Carolyn McGee (18:36)
a lot of faith, a lot of trust, a lot of belief in myself and the people that I've chosen to surround myself with, and sometimes a few temper tantrums, to be honest. It's like, I have this process that I call tap and rant. So tapping is EFT, it's emotional freedom technique. You tap on...
meridian points for people in the audience who are familiar with it. And I need movement, so I will pace. And free form consciousness, just say whatever is on my mind and tap. A lot of times when I'm in that state, I'm just tapping at the points underneath the collarbone or the grief points. sometimes it's grief because of a change, a move, a loss of a relationship.
illness, whatever it is, but a lot of times it just comes right down to grief. And so that movement of releasing my attachment to it being done a certain way or in a certain time, that's really what does the most for me. It's releasing my expectations.
and allowing in something that's most likely better than I could have ever imagined.
Sarah Jordan-Ross (19:55)
There's a lot of trust in that God has a plan. And I know when...
Carolyn McGee (19:59)
And it's not working for
you right now.
Sarah Jordan-Ross (20:02)
Sometimes I wish he'd let me in on it and other times I wish I didn't have to learn my lessons via the cosmic boot up the backside or at least that he'd take his steel caps off when he does it. But I have always found that when I go through that, like no matter what the situation, there is always something good to be found in it. Sometimes we just have to look a little harder.
Carolyn McGee (20:14)
Thanks.
Okay.
Sarah Jordan-Ross (20:27)
look little longer and then
Carolyn McGee (20:30)
have the
patience to. Yeah.
Sarah Jordan-Ross (20:32)
Yeah, and patience is hard for some of us.
My now nine-year-old son, we were standing in line somewhere, this was quite a little while ago, and I said, no, we just have to wait, but I don't know how and I don't want to learn.
Carolyn McGee (20:49)
Yes.
Yeah, yep, absolutely. I have learned that I can't say I want to learn how to be more patient because then I get opportunities to practice patience. So I have changed my phrasing to, you know, I am accepting of divine timing or something because I was just asking for all of these growth opportunities and it was pretty painful to be honest with you.
Sarah Jordan-Ross (21:11)
Yeah.
Care for
what you wish for, you just might get it. And yes, you ask for patience and you get given opportunities to practice.
Carolyn McGee (21:21)
Yep, absolutely.
Yes, I was.
Sarah Jordan-Ross (21:27)
But see now you've learnt that lesson and you know that you need to watch your words because they have power.
So what is it that's lighting you up right now?
Carolyn McGee (21:38)
So I mentioned that I'm really good in math and science and analysis and all of those, I guess, brain things, logic. And I worked at corporate for 25 years. I really am good at producing. And then I learned or remembered how to
tap into my intuition, how to use that spiritual aspect. And I went through this really interesting phase of almost like a pendulum. I went way, I was living in this world of logic and analysis. And then I went way over into the spiritual field where like I was forgetting to buy groceries. was, you know, I was like in this.
trusting God everything's gonna be taking care of me, weird energy, because I'm still a human, I still need to take care of myself and everything. And what lights me up now is that beautiful ebb and flow that goes between producing energy and creative energy. It's really that intuition and the logic, because we all need both. And when we live too far in one or the other,
Sarah Jordan-Ross (22:36)
Yep.
Yeah.
Carolyn McGee (22:53)
We really are out of balance. We're not living authentically. We're kind of living in just a compartmentalized part of our energy. We're not bringing forth everything that we're capable of. And I've been really doing a lot with women who are entrepreneurs. I have two businesses and they want to understand how to bring all that data together to make decisions.
And I realized that I was living in, like I said, I was living in this lane, I was living in that lane, but I wasn't pulling it all together. And it's so fun to be in that space where you can have those spiritual awakenings, you can have the intuitive hits and you can validate them using kinesiology and then you can...
get the spreadsheet and put it all together and have so much confidence in what you're deciding that it's easy to go ahead with it.
Sarah Jordan-Ross (23:57)
when you find that balance between science and spirituality and realize that that is not an either or conversation it's a both and and they work really well when you use them both together I think that's how they were kind of designed to be
Carolyn McGee (24:13)
Mm-hmm. Yeah. there's, you know, I was just at a spiritual expo this weekend and it was fascinating. There was a lot of people who were just opening up. And so they were there to, you know, to explore and to learn, but they, all of their questions were kind of like analysis type questions. And then there's two people, were so in the spiritual world that they actually missed lectures they wanted to go to because they couldn't keep track of time. You know, so it's like these,
extremes that aren't really completely serving anyone. They're just not really embodied. They're not in that moment where they can make that next right step and do all the opportunities that are available for them.
Sarah Jordan-Ross (24:59)
I need to find that balance not be too...
for want of a better way to put it, be too woo and out there and not be too science geeky this has to be. We need to find that balance between the two and when we look at nature, when we look at systems, they're all cyclical, they all connect, they all exist in balance and harmony. Even the basic systems in the body that keep us alive.
Carolyn McGee (25:06)
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Sarah Jordan-Ross (25:26)
They are all based on the idea of balance and harmony, that they all work together and if one of them's out of whack it causes problems somewhere else.
but it's easy to forget that.
Carolyn McGee (25:36)
very easy.
Sarah Jordan-Ross (25:37)
Okay, so you've been watching the show for a little bit so you know that there's a question coming on the what do we need to talk about? So what's that one conversation that we need to be having that we're just not?
Carolyn McGee (25:51)
So I have a Christian background. am Catholic and
One of the things that I think we really need to get back into is love thy neighbor.
We're not. Go ahead.
Sarah Jordan-Ross (26:05)
And when we say love thy neighbour, we do not just mean the people who are exactly like you.
Carolyn McGee (26:14)
Yes, exactly. It's, know, and I'm gonna paraphrase because I don't remember exactly how it is, but it's like, whatever you do to the least of you, you do to me. Again, I don't have the exact thing, but it's really, yeah.
Sarah Jordan-Ross (26:28)
It's in John and
whatsoever you do for the least of these brothers and sisters of mine you do for me. And he talks about how when he was starving you brought him in and fed him when he was naked you clothed him. All those sorts of things and they're going but we didn't do anything for you. It's like no but you did it for.
Carolyn McGee (26:51)
for all these others. Yeah. it's, know, it's seeing through our hearts rather than seeing through our logic or even our eyes, because yes, we can see the differences. You know, your hair color is different than mine. You know, there people who have different colored skin. There's people who have different beliefs. There's people who...
Sarah Jordan-Ross (26:52)
So everybody. Yeah.
Carolyn McGee (27:13)
have gone to college and not gone to college. There's people who start businesses and want people who want to work for somebody else. There's all different types of people that make our world so unique and beautiful. And if God had really intended us to all be the same, we'd be the same. And we wouldn't be the It's like, I really believe that. And the...
Sarah Jordan-Ross (27:32)
Exactly.
Carolyn McGee (27:38)
world that we're living in now has forgotten that in a lot of ways. Even some of my very close friends, we don't talk about things that are happening in the world because we care, our hearts care enough about each other to not get into it. But it's, I think we really need to, we need to open up those wounds or those differences.
then acknowledge them and start accepting people for their hearts, who they really are, their truest essence, not what they look like or what they do for a living or where they live in the world, because that's not loving your neighbor.
Sarah Jordan-Ross (28:22)
And when we start having those conversations, we just might realise we have lot more in common and a lot more that unites us than those seemingly small differences that divide us.
Carolyn McGee (28:31)
huh.
Yeah.
Sarah Jordan-Ross (28:35)
And
it's the... I don't care what your political beliefs are, I don't care what your nationality is, I don't care what your spiritual beliefs are, I care if you're a good person and how you treat other people. Because like you, was the... you treat other people how you want them to treat you, and...
Carolyn McGee (28:58)
Mm-hmm. Yes.
Sarah Jordan-Ross (29:00)
Everyone is your neighbor.
Carolyn McGee (29:03)
Absolutely.
And I think that piece of that that keeps me going is everything is infinite. There's more than enough for everybody. It's not they can't have it because then there won't be enough for me. There's more than enough of everything of life, of resources, of love, of good health. It's abundant. whether you believe in God or some other energy,
It's there, it's available, and we don't need to take from other people in order to have what we want.
Sarah Jordan-Ross (29:38)
because there is enough for everyone.
Carolyn McGee (29:41)
Mm-hmm. Yes, absolutely.
Sarah Jordan-Ross (29:42)
And if you look
at the church how it was described in Acts.
was that they gathered together daily, they shared of what they had for the good of all. There was a part where widows and orphans were struggling and it's like, well, okay, we need to feed them, we need to look after them. And then they in turn looked after other people. So it all goes around and...
Carolyn McGee (30:13)
Mm-hmm.
Sarah Jordan-Ross (30:14)
When we look after each other, things tend to be better.
Carolyn McGee (30:18)
Yeah,
absolutely do. I was the lead author on a collaboration book and the image that I picked for the front cover has the ripples, the drop and then it just ripples out. And that's really what I live in and what I believe is that one person can make a difference. Talking about kindness, caring, love, that everything is infinite.
we radiate that out and it impacts all the people around us and we truly, from that point of light, from that point of love, change the world one person at a time.
Sarah Jordan-Ross (30:54)
think that's what we're all called to do is to shine our light and to share that love and I want to thank you so much for all you're doing to to do that. Now if people wanted to connect with you what's the best way for them to do that?
Carolyn McGee (31:10)
So there's actually two ways. Facebook, you can follow me on Facebook or connect with me there or send me a direct message. And it's Carolyn McGee 444. That's my angel. Little reference there. Or on my website, which is carolynmcgee.com.
Sarah Jordan-Ross (31:29)
just because I'm curious. The book you mentioned, what's it called?
Carolyn McGee (31:32)
you
Sarah Jordan-Ross (31:33)
Of course you've got it right behind you.
Carolyn McGee (31:34)
because of
course I've got it here. It's called Inspired Living and it is a collaboration because that is one of my core values. And this is about each individual's journey to overcome an obstacle and really step into their truest essence. For me, I believe intuition is our own secret superpower. It shouldn't be secret, but it is. And so my story is about getting into that.
and how do I live authentically? they have little tools at the end. Sometimes it's a meditation or a piece of energy work for people to expand their own abilities to live inspired.
Sarah Jordan-Ross (32:17)
sounds pretty amazing to me.
Carolyn McGee (32:19)
Thank
Sarah Jordan-Ross (32:21)
And I'm half tempted to ask you if you wanted to give us a little example of one of those techniques that you practice through the book or just in the work that you do, just something quick to get us centered and grounded and ready to live inspired again.
Carolyn McGee (32:37)
Yes. So my favorite exercise is what I call the heart test. And our hearts are our most intuitive muscles. It will always tell you the truth. And I'm not talking about, you know, the romantic love I'm pining for somebody, but I'm talking about your heart chakra, your heart, the center of your body. And if you think about something,
that makes you feel joyous, that makes you feel loving. I always think about my kids. My heart expands, I feel really good, I feel warm, I actually feel sometimes like I wanna be an angel and spread my wings out there. just, everything opens up. Now if I think about something that doesn't bring me joy or that is bad for me, I always think about cigarettes because that almost killed my dad. So it's like I have a very...
clear no on cigarettes. And everybody's got a no. And when I think about them, I want to hug myself and hide myself and protect my heart. So that's a no. And it's an easy test for, is something good for me? Is something not good for me? Am I being in alignment with my life? Is this something good for me to do? Is this, I have this weird feeling about this person. Is it true?
I, when you invited me on the podcast and like, is this good for me? I'm like, yeah, this is good. It's, it's, it's a beautiful way to learn how to trust your own energy. And you don't need a tool. You don't need, well, you've got your heart, but it's always with you. It's always with you. So you can do that in any time that you want to. And the more you practice it, the
the and the quicker the answers come.
Sarah Jordan-Ross (34:27)
Remembering to listen to our hearts because they they tend to guide us fairly well
Carolyn McGee (34:32)
Yes, they do, as long as we listen.
Sarah Jordan-Ross (34:34)
Yes.
Listening is a skill. You can practice it. You can learn to listen better.
Carolyn McGee (34:41)
Absolutely. That's another practice, right?
Sarah Jordan-Ross (34:43)
Yeah.
Yeah. So I want to thank you so much for being with us today and for sharing your wisdom, your heart and your light. They've reminded us that our intuition isn't something mystical and out there. It's something that we have in us and with us all the time. It's our built in guidance system. We just need to slow down and
Carolyn McGee (35:06)
I
Sarah Jordan-Ross (35:09)
listen to it long enough so we can actually understand what it's telling us. Now if you've ever felt disconnected, uncertain, that you've forgotten your own inner voice, let this be the nudge you need to pause, breathe and listen. You have the answers within you.
So keep living like it matters, make every day sacred and carry that wisdom forward in how you love, how you serve, how you show up for one another. Thank you for being with us. I'm Sarah Jordan Ross and this has been Taboo Talk. Until next time, take care of yourselves, take care of each other and remember your story matters so share it. It might be the one that makes a difference for someone else.
For now.